Climbing shoe terminology reddit They hurt my feet less than any climbing shoe ive tried. I’m in the U. and I always go to Rock On at Mile End Climbing wall, they’ve never let me down when helping me pick a new pair of The shoes definitely matter though depending on where you’re at in terms of climbing level. 2K subscribers in the climbingshoes community. 5-1 sizes with evolv (0. Idk why people downvoted this comment, starting with the sensitive good shoes for bouldering is the only way to get used to sensitive shoes for bouldering, you can get in tarantulas or some other stiff shoes with no downturn and when you feel like you can climb better but your feet aren't helping you as much and you go for performance shoes you're almost back to 0 because you climb different TLDR: I am looking for intermediate but comfortable climbing shoes for indoor climbing with slight/medium downturn and low/medium pre-tensioning. Also, the rubber is usually quite soft/thin so as to allow for extra feedback in the shoe making it easier to tell if you are on a very small foothold. After 2 weeks with 2 sessions of 1. I went for EU41. 5 in the quantums work. For both normal shoes, and climbing shoes, it really varies per brand. Learn good footwork. Source: I have been selling and fitting climbing shoes for the past 3 years. Also, synthetic shoes usually smell worse than leather shoes because they’re not as breathable. In the 80's people were in tennis shoes climbing harder than most of us ever will using anything. More info provided below :) Hey guys, I am currently looking to update my La Sportiva Mythos (been climbing through three pairs in the past few years). REI has 20% off sales and coupons quite often that apply to those $200 shoes. A subreddit dedicated to discussing and reviewing climbing shoes. 5) for my S, but it was ridiculously tight and I had to use plastic bags to squeeze into the shoe. The wide toe box saved my interest in the hobby. Spend $160 on aggressive climbing shoes and then wear them to the gym to climb vert 5. Put these in your shoes. Some things to keep in mind are in the following paragraph. Also known strap problems Sportiva Katana Lace: Felt like a good shoe, would have bought if it was on sale i totally agree with everything tango1911 said! and to answer your other questions, as you can see in the picture comparing the two shoes sole to sole, the drone cs hv are actually just medium volume (and the lv is very skinny) whereas the shark 3. I'm a 45EU in the La Sportiva Tarantulas, so if anyone has experience with that size in another shoe, that would be helpful. I would like to purchase a new pair of climbing shoes for indoor climbing (boulder and lead climbing), and I'm interested in these two. Their general advice on sizing Unparallel is street shoe for flat profile, and half size up for downturned. Nothing wrong with getting a higher performance shoe if you find it on sale. Also, the Mythos are not a super stiff shoe and climbing inside only, your shoes will last longer. Spend $60 on climbing shoes and be surprised when they fall apart after 2 months of gym sessions. Recently, I've made serious improvements to my core strength and the shoe doesn't seem to make as much of a difference any more. One thing to consider is that if you are specifically looking for a training shoe don’t write off soft shoes. I had scarpa helixes I returned. It’s definitely not a try hard or super agressive overhang shoes. Don't dare dip your feet in that buttery sock. That's why most aggressive shoes, especially bouldering shoes, are designed to be taken off quickly. If your shoes make you hate climbing then they are bad shoes. I got shoes when I got a membership, but a large part in that was because my gym was running a special where you get a harness, shoes, chalk bag etc. My friend climbs v2 in Dragos because she somehow managed to stumble on them for $50 and thinks they’re comfy. 5. SoIll stands out in terms of design but I've also heard from their first run that they lacked in performance and durability. Additionally if you go outside and have some stiffer shoes it will feel like they are giving you a boost because you won’t have to work as hard to We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. comfy, crazy good heel, pretty good at slab and micro edging, not incredible at smearing, but good enough for gym work, quite good at overhang, the rubber lasts forever, super long break-in period (like 50 hours or so of climbing), once broken in still very good at edging but much easier for smearing. A climb that requires you to transition mostly sideways. Then go from there. Popular for gym climbing and bouldering. I just boulder for fun and got grossed out by rental shoes + the rental prices. These are both (relatively) cheap and popular. Been browsing shoes recently, and I know it doesn't matter, but Men's designs from most brands are soooooo ugly. com Slip-lasted rock climbing shoes tend to be sensitive and less stiff than board-lasted shoes. For outdoor climbing, you want to be half a size bigger than your bouldering size. Hard single pitch - whatever shoe is right for what I’m climbing. typically advanced bouldering shoes are downturned enough to cause pain for new climbers, or at least to make it uncomfortable to climb. For example my street shoe size is 45(Nike) to 45 5/8 (Adidas). I’m not a super duper climbing bro though, so take my opinion with some salt. Any shoe above 50 euros will be an improvement. g £3 a session to rent shoes, 3x a week, is £460ish a year, it would nearly double the cost I'm paying the gym to climb there) I can buy 8 pairs of shoes for that or maybe 2 or 3 decent pairs) So obviously after just climbing a few When I first started I didn’t like the idea of buying a “starter” shoe like the tarantulaces (a very popular starter shoe) because I knew I was going to outgrow a starter shoe quick, the groups I climb with are advanced climbers and go climbing 3-4x a week so I learned very quickly. I think after my first day of climbing they felt comfortable and Absolutely. Evolv Phantom: This shoe fit quite well but I hated the straps Sportiva Solution Comp: This had a quite good heel but I think based on the shoe last design is a bit wide for me. Imo, a shoe too wide in the front/middle is the worst thing in terms of fit. The first thing really is to find your foot shape (egyptian, greek, etc) and width. Smear —Climbing technique in which the sole of the shoe, plus proper weight over the feet, provides traction for moving upward. oh i should add the purple quantums, as it seems five ten Get whatever is cheap and comfy (relative to climbing shoe comfort). Note that I climb a lot in a very new and rough textured boulder gym. Circuit Board aka Systems Board. As a beginner really aggressive shoes could make climbing quite painful. 5 (US8. Differences in climbing ability are a lot bigger than differences between different shoe models. I have flat and rather narrow low-volume feet. I wear a 42. For example the famed Veloce is a brutally wide shoe. But if you want a softer side ,comfortable, semi moderate shoes that do it all then it’s a good choice. All of that background to say If you had to recommend 1 shoe, you used every climbing session (2-4 times a week for me) for indoor bouldering what would it be? r/RockClimbingShoes: A subreddit designed to help those looking for rock climbing shoes. See full list on blog. it’ll be difficult to find a shoe that works perfectly for your toes but the I have a pair of soill’s, I think they’re the street model. The fact that they're decent all-rounders with that balance between grip/sensitivity and edging support is an added bonus :) But any of the shoes are climable almost anywhere. A vertical climb or overhang that includes many different types of holds laid out in a circular pattern so the climber can train endurance, grip work, and general technique. Toe box is wide with a small heel cup and size it with my street shoes size. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. A type of anchor used in abseiling especially in winter and in ice climbing. If they want to try a super soft shoe like this they should check out Scarpa Drago, Evolv Zenit and a slightly stiffer shoe might be La Sportiva Kubo or Butora Gomi. I got my shoes on sale for about $50 with tax and shipping. TLDR: (1) Sensitive shoe - Scarpa Dragos LV; (2) Neutral shoe (in terms of sensitivity) - Tenaya Masais; (3) Edging/Stiff shoe - LaSpo Miuras VS (Women) Heads up for the long comment - I am a shoe fanatic (heels, sneakers, climbing shoes lol), and have been struggling for 4 years to find the perfect shoe. Yes aggressive shoes perform better on overhung and a stiff toe is better for tiny footholds while soft rubber is better on volumes but you can climb anything in anything. Hello! I was wondering if anyone is going through the same as i am so i figured i might as well ask after searching for endless posts. Jun 28, 2016 ยท One would think that climbing shoe companies would base their lasts off of these 3 foot structures, yet it seems, at least in the five ten line, that the main goal is to make different lasts widely different sizes. A A-grade Also aid climbing grade. . Shoe background: evolv pontas > ls cobra > ls theory Okay, so, i’ve been climbing for a little over 10 years, and i’ve been lucky enough to find shoes that fit my feet “almost”perfectly (getting to the almost part in a bit) by the second pair, so i’ve been getting the same sized cobra each time they are worn enough to be replaced. In street shoes men's are normally a D while women's are a B, but there is a decent amount of variation in what size people actually wear relative to their foot since the exact size often doesn't matter that much. Traverse. 5 year now and started with some beginner shoes my size (38), in December i bought othe Furias are just a little softer than dragos, but it's very difficult to get them these days. IE, get whatever "beginner shoe" is most comfortable. It felt better than the solution. The drone heels are plmuch better, with no space at all, and a better overall fit. Make sure you let your shoes dry completely between sessions, moisture is the enemy. I pick lace because I have wider feet. Turns out my feet aren't low volume, but "duck feet"- narrow heels and wide forefeet, and most climbing shoe manufacturers don't make shoes in that shape. 5 for shaman and 1 for phantom) and I find that they are very comfortable and still basically as high performing (for everything but really micro edging) as anything else I have. The rubber is soft but lasts for about 5 months for me. Thanks in advance. For example, as I started to improve and take climbing seriously I switched from an evolve beginner shoe (Elektra I think) to a 5. 5hr per week could I feel comfortable climbing in the S. They will force you to use your toes more which will help your technique long term. Closer fitting shoes are definitely helpful though! We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. At 6 months you’re probably pretty likely to stick with it so go for it if shoes are in your budget. Spend $60 on climbing shoes and be surprised when they fall apart after 2 months of gym sessions. Softer shoes do wear quicker, but as others have said it is a game changer. First find a shoe that matches your foot shape, then (for bouldering) find the size that is tight enough to hold your toes in the toe crimp position without hurting. When people talk this shoe is > than that for X its almost entirely preference. When you say first climbing shoe, are you new to climbing? If so, I would definitely not recommend these. But my advice would be to go and try some shoes on! If you can find a place with a good amount of shoes in stock and someone used to looking at and choosing climbing shoes for climbers that’s the best option. They aren’t really a good all around shoe and I only use them certain red points. As for rope climbing, my home gym is bouldering only, so I just don't have a lot of access, but I do indoor rope climb maybe once a year. Some classic intermediate shoes are Kubo, Veloce, and Finales. Which Decathlon model did you have? The second expensive one, with the green color? Not a bad shoe. If you have used them for TWO months I doubt they’re going to stretch or become more comfortable at this point… My street shoe size is 44. Scarpa is cutting back production. didn't use the original drone, but switched from the instinct VS, both with and without xs P. If you’re choosing between street shoe and smaller I think you should stick with street. 5 and my vegan Skwamas are 42. I tend to aggressively downsize to the point of requiring plastic bags for break in. Beginner shoes and cheap, durable all-round shoes are the same thing. I went 2. I would say it’s similar to other all around shoes like instant vsr , skwama, vapor s, flagship . K. “Trad shoes” usually just means stiffish and flattish, sometimes designed to be worn true to size, and sometimes high top (I’ve never understood the need for a high-top shoe except in offwidth or if you need ankle support though). 5 sizes down from street shoes but everyone is different. Different shoe models do work better or worse on certain kinds of climbs, and some climbers find that some climbs are only possible for them in certain kinds of shoes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I go up from street shoe 0. It'll happen some day, just hasn't yet. I think the proper diagnosis for early toe failure in shoes is usually someone like me, a not-so-light climber with super strong feet and ankles from years of running, cycling, and mountaineering using proper technique to weight the feet instead of the arms on climbs that are around vertical, and simply climbing in shoes that are too soft. Do: Get a resole before you need it. See C-grade. But even those are becoming baggy in the heel. The technical difficulty grading system for aid climbing (both for "original" and an adapted version for "new wave"), which goes: A0, A1, A2, A3, A4, A5 and up to A6 (for "new wave"). 5, my first climbing shoe is the ClimbX US8. Aggressive shoes aren't necessary for progression, they're usually for specific styles and overhang climbing. The S is my second shoe. I've been climbing for 1. 3. Something I do and could work for you is wear your beginner shoes to warm up in and then switch over to your moderate or aggressive shoes when you’re climbing at your limit. 8s. If I'm not sure or it's going to be a long day where I can bring only one pair of shoes, pinks ftw. ABD Also assisted braking device. weighmyrack. Was pretty close to quitting with other shoes. S. And I gotta say between Solutions and Miuras they’re the most comfortable shoe straight out of the box. Currently wearing La Sportiva Finale at size 43. Have tried both at my local store and both felt great on my feet, but I found really difficult to see a comparison only between Theory and Skwama We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I can downsize that much because I want the climbing shoe to fit that tightly and I need to try on 20+ climbing shoe models to find the perfect toe box shape. fyi I wear a 9 in verdes and couldn't make a 10. Nearly quit climbing altogether after feeling like i had to "level up" my shoe game and the store staff insisted of a pair that fit me perfectly (all while i complained i wont be able to climb in these - i was assured they will stretch and get more comfortable - that was a lie) now i am in this limbo land where climbing isnt enjoyable and i cant find a pair of shoes that make it enjoyable, not Seconding these as a beginner/intermediate. Any insight, experiences, tips or even other shoe recommendations are very welcome. Went back to soft sticky shoes. My local climbing gyms don't carry much either, at least none of the shoes I see mentioned regularly are there and the ones they do have aren't in my size. Especially when it comes to shoes like this you have to find one that fits your foot right. It doesn't matter if you can't stand or walk in them on the floor. If I was climbing a hard overhang with lots of tiny foot features, I'd reach for my Katanas and be a little bemused using my mocs. But I’d say get shoes when you decide you’re going to stick with the hobby. A term Soft shoes are probably your best bet for the gym. Deodorant spray just masks the smell, but doesn’t get rid of the bacteria/fungus. If your toes can lay flat then the shoe might be slightly too big. Flagships and Souped up I got down half a size from street shoe, whereas I was going up in the Vim/Mocc. For me the heel fits best of any brand I tried. Dumb name, awesome product. 5 years into climbing - they're still in the cupboard as I found the pain and shape detrimental to climbing. The problem here is really that the quality of shoe you get from normal gym rentals doesn't justify the price (e. I definitely notice a difference when I’m climbing at my limit. Unless you happen to be one of those people who are naturally strong at climbing or just have great footwork right off the bat, you'd be wasting money on anything pricy because your at your level (I'm assuming) your hands and core will fail on you before your feet do and because youll be dragging your feet all over which I've had the Scarpa Velocity climbing shoes in the beginning in the size 37,5 (my regular shoe size is 36,5 to 37) and even though they are a size/half a size bigger than my regular shoes, I still experience horrible pain in my big toe (the toe seems to curl up in the shoe and since I'm alpine climbing, when there comes a part, where I need to Tenaya Mastia are the only shoes I've found in a decade of climbing that are available in my size (EU48ish for street shoes) AND the exact right shape for my heel. Sometimes the optimum shoe for a particular climb is not "aggressive" at all. 5K subscribers in the climbingshoes community. Gorilla stomp. They're climbing shoes, not standing around shoes. Abalakov thread Abalakov thread Also V-thread. If you're trying them in a store, test them on a wall using tiny footholds. I love my Ocuns, best shoes I've ever had and only €90 for a pair of high performance shoes (vs €90 tarantula beginner shoes). Only thing I'd recommend to you as opposed to an actual beginner is to lean towards softer shoes if possible, since this will make overhangs more doable. The other brands all have a similar cheap shoe in either lace or velcro. r/climbingshoes: A subreddit dedicated to discussing and reviewing climbing shoes. Love your shoes. 5 and I want to down size another half size in my left foot since my feet are different sizes. Slipper —A snug-fitting sport climbing shoe that is slipped on rather than laced. wear whatever shoes you want, just make sure they fit first. I got some aggressive shoes 3 years ago, 1. That being said, I found the shoes quite inconsistent across the range on this. I'm forced to wear shoes very tight to try to get a good heel fit. 10 aggressive shoe (Blackwing) and it made a huge difference. I wear scarpa vs womens/ low volume and still have dead space in my heels with the rest of the foot crunched. Hope that helps! A beginner pair of climbing shoes will run you about $100 and a high quality pair will be around $200. In terms of sizing I wouldn't go too silly with sizing down. It's a tough choice but consider going for that $200 upgrade to start with. If you're climbing in rentals then you'll probably climb the same grades or higher in either tarantulaces or boreal jokers. If I was climbing a long splitter, mocs every day. My street shoe size is US9. Pretty comfy for a climbing shoe and have lasted a long time. 0 (hv) is WIDE. I have worn Mythos and can tell you that you will notice an absolute difference once you buy a more technical aggressive shoe. Check out our posts for advice and reviews. 2. Honestly paying more will not give you better shoes "for you". 5 street shoe and my current comfy pair of gym climbing shoes is a 39. txirug emmqlp lua vnryfx fgyl fbxw vzyzl iceteett xdvd iudj